Ignition might be off when kickstand is down (sensor) or the quickshifter while shifting. Maybe you rest your foot on the shift lever?). These would be the first things I would check. But I am not a mechanic, these are only guesses.

 

Hi Rich, I tried all I could think of. Pushed on the side stand mount rode around a car park pushing on it, nothing. Then I flicked it down and the engine cut out, but it showed the big yellow warning sign. Same again with engine cut off switch, it stopped but with yellow warning sign. None of which were activate during my issue.

 

My Norden has 20k miles, I know exactly what you are talking about but I have no idea what is causing it. It’s completely random sometimes and sometimes its just a regular thing to happen in a days ride. It only happens when I downshift to first and im coming to a stop. Its very strange. I just got used to it. I don’t think it’ll leave me stranded. I tend not to worry about it. I doubt my dealer could find the issue since I can’t replicate it on demand.

Curious to see if anyone has a answer!


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My Norden has 20k miles, I know exactly what you are talking about but I have no idea what is causing it. It’s completely random sometimes and sometimes its just a regular thing to happen in a days ride. It only happens when I downshift to first and im coming to a stop. Its very strange. I just got used to it. I don’t think it’ll leave me stranded. I tend not to worry about it. I doubt my dealer could find the issue since I can’t replicate it on demand.

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Hey Cedric, glad it's not my imagination then. How many times has it happened in total? Have you told your dealer?
I don't think it will leave me stranded but it did nearly cause me to crash in the wet, it happened very fast and I was doing 55mph changed down to fourth gear ready for the corner. As it stopped the back wheel locked up and skidded round very fast because the road surface was wet. I came very close to crashing, but usually ride with fingers covering the clutch so that saved me. The other time was in third gear at around 25mph. If yours only happens going into first gear then that means hopefully you aren'y going fast or into a corner. I am on to the dealer and trying to get a reply from Husqvana (5 days waiting but still nothing). I will let you know if I find anything out? Ride safe, or slowly in my case. And definitely not in the wet....

 

Did they check the fuel pump. Maybe it is a little bit clogged.

 

Hey Bauer, it is going in to the dealership for a full strip down and inspection next week. Fuel pump, throttle bodies, software updates, water in the fuel, clutch switch etc. the usual sort of things they look at, but no specific fault or issue relating has been found or seen before by them. 5 days in still no response from Husqvana.

 

One of the issues I found was the headlight would burn out it burn the fuse it was shorten out and someone said they had to replace the cluster which I believe has a kill switch on it I'm not sure but I loosened and move the cluster on the handlebars and then retighten and kept moving it to where it got a good ground and I never had the issue again maybe you might want to check that?

 

Kolega má KTM 890 a děla mu to podobně. Zastaví na křižovatce a motor chcipne. Děla mu to sporadicky. Servis si s tím neví rady

 

A colleague has a KTM 890 and it did the same thing to him. He stops at an intersection and the engine revs. She did it to him sporadically. The service doesn't know how to deal with it.

Thanks @Widle yes of course I didn’t check on the KTM Forums, It stands to reason that the 890 power unit might also possibly have this fault. I will ask over there too. Let’s see what the service folks and the Customer service teams says. Although I suspect they may not find anything “wrong” with it. I am door stepping Husqvana tomorrow so let’s see what they say?

 

Has anyone heard of the orange brand having this issue? Also, is everyone's bike the same year? Sold in same country? I'm awaiting delivery of a 2023 and have no interest in this as an issue.

 

pak vést. Motorku pouze přihlásím do provozu.

 

Okay next thought. Is everyone experiencing this in a downshift? I'm not yet 100% up to speed in the bike. Is the auto downshift/ upshift able to be turned off? My ducati was. If you are able to turn it off, does the problem go away? My thoughts are the autoshift components not the ecu or a fuel issue. Thoughts ???

 

The quick shifter can be turned Off or On in the Menu. Husky calls it "Easy Shift" in the Menu/Manual.

 

Sounds similiar to the issue I was having. My issue was a result of a broken NiceCNC throttle spacer that was giving the ECU fits.

 

@KrillOill I saw that issue, I haven't fitted anything like that just factory plus Remus exhaust , heated grips and centre stand.

 

Similar to @Cydric97, it happened to me 2 or 3 times during my first 500 miles. However, unlike @iamincomingchaos experience, it only happened when I downshifted to first and was coming into a stop.

 

I get flame-outs about every ride before it warms up especially when it's cold out, I keep my bike in my heated shop, but I notice the issue the most when the ambient temp outside is <50°. For me, it almost always happens after a mile or 2 from a cold start, usually in 1st or 2nd while I'm slowing down for the stop sign. As soon as I pull in the clutch from down-shifting it will die, most of the time it does it at 10-15 mph but it has happened between 3rd and 4th a couple times. AAAaaand the slipper clutch means it can't be bump-started by releasing the clutch again so you have to hit the button.

On a good note, the starter button only needs to be tapped not pressed and held to start the bike like a push to start in a car, so one quick press with my thumb and it's back on. Still makes me pucker a bit when I'm busy riding and not thinking about having to turn it back on. After 10 min it's almost never does it again, it also rarely dies it if I don't use the clutch and just stop it down when down-shifting.

 

@DarkWhiteChocolate It has happened to me at 55mph in 4th and 25mph in third gear. Interesting that you have had it at speed a couple of times, but mainly slowing to a stop in 1st and 2nd gear. I was riding in the cold but the engine had been running for an hour and was well up to temperature. The slipper clutch is exactly why I can't bump start it, but in the wet it was pretty dramatic the speed that the back wheel locked, skidded and came round, obviously there is no traction control or ABS available when the engine has stopped whilst in motion. So a lose, lose situation for me.

 

There's a kill switch on the central stand, maybe that's responsible for the problems.

 

@norden_diepholz Thanks, I will go and try to get that bouncing whilst riding and see if it does anything. Do you know if it shows a warning on the dash if activated?

 

simply start the engine, pull the clutch, engage first gear, press the central stand down, then the engine stops and a warning may appear on the display

 

Got it, I will do that to check for a warning on the dash, then I need to see if I can flick it with my foot whilst riding and see if it creates the engine cut out problem. I will give it a go in the morning! Before the dealers van comes to take it away.

 

To be honest, I've never had a central stand. There is definitely a kill switch on the side stand

 

There's no kill switch on the center stand...only the side stand.

 

Hi all

There is only really two logical explanations for this. Firstly for the rear to lock up at 55mph in the wet, it is most likely you hit some oil or other slippery surface. The slipper clutch is mechanical and is designed to prevent rear lock up even if the engine seizes.

Why did the engine cut? Possibility one is after changing down you are expecting to change down again and you are resting your foot on or under the gear lever just enough to cut spark but not change gear. On my Norden I disengage quick shifter when off road, otherwise I find when crossing rivers the pressure of the water on the gear lever is enough to cut out the engine (That is how the quick shifter functions - cuts spark on start of lever movement before enough pressure is applied to change gear).

The other option in this case (not some of the others) is you are applying rear brake even if are not consciously aware of doing it. That will lock up your rear tyre on a slippery patch and stall the engine. I do it accidentally on my dirt bike on downhills often.

Hope that helps.

 

I've had this happen on 2 occasions and mostly when standing and shifting gears, had no idea until I noticed the side stand warning momentarily flash. It was my big bloody boots catching the small kick stand assist hoop (whatever you want to call it) on the sidestand. I had Pivot Pegz in low position and the rocking backward my heel caught and activated the safety. I have since cut this little tab off the side stand and raised my pegs back to standard position so they clear the side stand. Not sure if this is a similar issue t what you have but might be worth looking at.

 

@GazzaNZ I have been away so just got back to the forums. Interesting what you say about the slipper clutch being mechanical, I checked and on the 901 it is not, they factory call it "PASC", Power Assist Slipper Clutch. It will not completely disengage the engine if it stops whilst running, it is only designed to work to smooth out the gear transitions for the quick shifter. On a race bike slipper clutch it would be fully mechanical, this isn't.

Also in the case of riding with my foot on the rear brake, I was coming into a corner, and a roundabout on the two occasions and was on the balls of my feet, not heels, and was letting the engine doe the remaining braking at the time. That is when it stalled so I don't think my feet were the issue in this case.

The bike is at the dealership at the moment being ridden with a factory data logger under the seat. So let's see what that turns up.

 

@Thierrix Hello there. So you have had something similar. The dealership haven't heard of any throttle body issues here. But then it's not like the information flow will be that good between dealers to maufacturer and then out to other dealers. There are no phone numbers, and my dealer says he has to fill out a contact form, just like the customers. It took Husqvana six days to get back to me and I haven't heard anything else since.

I presume like me, the engine was dead but the dash and electrics were still on? For me it meant no traction control, ABS etc to help out. Just a locked up back wheel. No warning or fault indications either. Stopped and pressed the starter, it came back instantly

I will ask the dealer to enquire see if there are any issues being talked about but so far he said there has been nothing. They are riding ot with a data logger at the moment so let's wait and see.

 

Yes, same thing.
If you don’t mind, please advise if they find something with the data log.
Thanjs

 

@Thierrix I will do.

 

Final (Hopefully) update. The New New…..

The dealership could not find anything wrong with it . They rode it four 4 hours with a data logger under the seat. The issue did not reoccur so there is no faults or data to record. We discussed it in detail. I did not feel right riding it after it nearly put me into a dry stone wall, in the Yorkshire Dales they don’t have hedges so having an incident like the engine stopping at 55mph down a wet hill can have an unwanted outcome for me and my family. So after much wrangling the dealer, who was very good, agreed to take it back, but I bought it as a used demo. So I had to pay quite a bit to acquire a new 3 bike. He swapped all my bits across and I picked it up last Monday. So far so good.
Husqvana have been silent throughout, one initial email after six days, a case number was assigned, then nothing. It has taken several weeks to sort out getting the old bike looked at. Me and the dealer sorting it out between us, over a motorcycle with a possibly dangerous issue. No follow up from them, no contact, in fact no “customer support “. Pretty disappointing, I like most of you are new to the brand, coming to it because of the Norden 901. I sent them a final email explaining the final outcome. But the bike, now with the dealership, is in my opinion, unsafe and I told them in no uncertain terms.

Waiting to hear Husqvana,I won’t hold my breath.

Meanwhile, loving my New Norden 901, it’s my second one, but not for the right reasons.

 

Not the best of outcomes, but not the worst either . Rule number 1 is to stay safe as much as you can.
i also heard that gasoline with ethanol could be a problem .
For now, I have to wait and see. A case has been opened with Husqvarna canada.
Cheers

 

@Thierrix It is what it is. Ride Safe!
I will let you know what Husqvana say about it all, I am hoping they will look into it further.