[iamincomingchaos]

There's a kill switch on the central stand, maybe that's responsible for the problems.

@norden_diepholz Thanks, I will go and try to get that bouncing whilst riding and see if it does anything. Do you know if it shows a warning on the dash if activated?

 

[norden_diepholz]

simply start the engine, pull the clutch, engage first gear, press the central stand down, then the engine stops and a warning may appear on the display

 

[iamincomingchaos]

Got it, I will do that to check for a warning on the dash, then I need to see if I can flick it with my foot whilst riding and see if it creates the engine cut out problem. I will give it a go in the morning! Before the dealers van comes to take it away.

 

[norden_diepholz]

To be honest, I've never had a central stand. There is definitely a kill switch on the side stand

 

[KrillOill]

There's no kill switch on the center stand...only the side stand.

 

[GazzaNZ]

Hi all

There is only really two logical explanations for this. Firstly for the rear to lock up at 55mph in the wet, it is most likely you hit some oil or other slippery surface. The slipper clutch is mechanical and is designed to prevent rear lock up even if the engine seizes.

Why did the engine cut? Possibility one is after changing down you are expecting to change down again and you are resting your foot on or under the gear lever just enough to cut spark but not change gear. On my Norden I disengage quick shifter when off road, otherwise I find when crossing rivers the pressure of the water on the gear lever is enough to cut out the engine (That is how the quick shifter functions - cuts spark on start of lever movement before enough pressure is applied to change gear).

The other option in this case (not some of the others) is you are applying rear brake even if are not consciously aware of doing it. That will lock up your rear tyre on a slippery patch and stall the engine. I do it accidentally on my dirt bike on downhills often.

Hope that helps.

 

[SydsTub]

I've had this happen on 2 occasions and mostly when standing and shifting gears, had no idea until I noticed the side stand warning momentarily flash. It was my big bloody boots catching the small kick stand assist hoop (whatever you want to call it) on the sidestand. I had Pivot Pegz in low position and the rocking backward my heel caught and activated the safety. I have since cut this little tab off the side stand and raised my pegs back to standard position so they clear the side stand. Not sure if this is a similar issue t what you have but might be worth looking at.

 

[Thierrix]

Hey Cedric, glad it's not my imagination then. How many times has it happened in total? Have you told your dealer?
I don't think it will leave me stranded but it did nearly cause me to crash in the wet, it happened very fast and I was doing 55mph changed down to fourth gear ready for the corner. As it stopped the back wheel locked up and skidded round very fast because the road surface was wet. I came very close to crashing, but usually ride with fingers covering the clutch so that saved me. The other time was in third gear at around 25mph. If yours only happens going into first gear then that means hopefully you aren'y going fast or into a corner. I am on to the dealer and trying to get a reply from Husqvana (5 days waiting but still nothing). I will let you know if I find anything out? Ride safe, or slowly in my case. And definitely not in the wet....

Exact same thing happened to me, but on a gravel road. I was riding in 4th around 55-60 like yourself and as I let go the throttle to downshift to 3rd before a turn, the engine stopped as I released the clutch. It sent me in an impressive low side that almost got me on the ground. I slid sideways for a good while and recovered with enough speed to attempt a restart but it proved impossible. After I stopped, I pressed the starter button and the engine fired immediately.
This situation happened again 5 times during the season, twice a low speed arriving at a stop sign. The other 3 times I was riding at a speed that would have allowed a restart but it never worked, the engine was like dead, with no warning light up. My dealer opened a case with Husky and it seems that there is a throttle body malfunction, I don't know what exactly, a few have been replaced already (in canada).

 

[Thierrix]

Sounds similiar to the issue I was having. My issue was a result of a broken NiceCNC throttle spacer that was giving the ECU fits.

Your explanation makes sense.
In my case, it always happened as I was letting go of the throttle.

 

[iamincomingchaos]

@GazzaNZ I have been away so just got back to the forums. Interesting what you say about the slipper clutch being mechanical, I checked and on the 901 it is not, they factory call it "PASC", Power Assist Slipper Clutch. It will not completely disengage the engine if it stops whilst running, it is only designed to work to smooth out the gear transitions for the quick shifter. On a race bike slipper clutch it would be fully mechanical, this isn't.

Also in the case of riding with my foot on the rear brake, I was coming into a corner, and a roundabout on the two occasions and was on the balls of my feet, not heels, and was letting the engine doe the remaining braking at the time. That is when it stalled so I don't think my feet were the issue in this case.

The bike is at the dealership at the moment being ridden with a factory data logger under the seat. So let's see what that turns up.

 

[iamincomingchaos]

@Thierrix Hello there. So you have had something similar. The dealership haven't heard of any throttle body issues here. But then it's not like the information flow will be that good between dealers to maufacturer and then out to other dealers. There are no phone numbers, and my dealer says he has to fill out a contact form, just like the customers. It took Husqvana six days to get back to me and I haven't heard anything else since.

I presume like me, the engine was dead but the dash and electrics were still on? For me it meant no traction control, ABS etc to help out. Just a locked up back wheel. No warning or fault indications either. Stopped and pressed the starter, it came back instantly

I will ask the dealer to enquire see if there are any issues being talked about but so far he said there has been nothing. They are riding ot with a data logger at the moment so let's wait and see.

 

[Thierrix]

Yes, same thing.
If you don’t mind, please advise if they find something with the data log.
Thanjs

 

[iamincomingchaos]

@Thierrix I will do.

 

[iamincomingchaos]

Final (Hopefully) update. The New New…..

The dealership could not find anything wrong with it . They rode it four 4 hours with a data logger under the seat. The issue did not reoccur so there is no faults or data to record. We discussed it in detail. I did not feel right riding it after it nearly put me into a dry stone wall, in the Yorkshire Dales they don’t have hedges so having an incident like the engine stopping at 55mph down a wet hill can have an unwanted outcome for me and my family. So after much wrangling the dealer, who was very good, agreed to take it back, but I bought it as a used demo. So I had to pay quite a bit to acquire a new 3 bike. He swapped all my bits across and I picked it up last Monday. So far so good.
Husqvana have been silent throughout, one initial email after six days, a case number was assigned, then nothing. It has taken several weeks to sort out getting the old bike looked at. Me and the dealer sorting it out between us, over a motorcycle with a possibly dangerous issue. No follow up from them, no contact, in fact no “customer support “. Pretty disappointing, I like most of you are new to the brand, coming to it because of the Norden 901. I sent them a final email explaining the final outcome. But the bike, now with the dealership, is in my opinion, unsafe and I told them in no uncertain terms.

Waiting to hear Husqvana,I won’t hold my breath.

Meanwhile, loving my New Norden 901, it’s my second one, but not for the right reasons.

 

[Thierrix]

Not the best of outcomes, but not the worst either . Rule number 1 is to stay safe as much as you can.
i also heard that gasoline with ethanol could be a problem .
For now, I have to wait and see. A case has been opened with Husqvarna canada.
Cheers

 

[iamincomingchaos]

@Thierrix It is what it is. Ride Safe!
I will let you know what Husqvana say about it all, I am hoping they will look into it further.

 

[Kybertronder]

I bought my Norden 901 expedition in April 23, and I now have 850 km on the bike.
I've experienced this issue twice.
First time was the first week. It had about 200km, and the issue appeared when I dropped the throttle and held the cluth out of a corner. Low speed. Pulled to the side, and the motor started again with no problem.

Second time today, about 850 km, and issue appeared when I clutched and dropped the throttle on the way into a roundabout. Low speed. I turned on the engine again while still in motion, and it started with no problem. Engine had been running for about 2 hours.

The foot killswitch might be a possible root cause, but Im not sure, then it must be extremely sensistive? I am fairly certain it is caused by a false positive cut engine electrical signal.

I have the stock exhaust.
I also have the heated grips. It that a common denominator? Does anyone without heated grips experience this issue?

Any updates from you other guys?

I'm having the 1000km service next week, and ill let them know about the issue.

 

[iamincomingchaos]

@Kybertronder Sorry to hear that you have the same issue as me. I tried contacting Husqvana directly but they were very dismissive of my concerns. The dealer was great but couldn’t find any issue. Fearing for my safety I had to do something. It was his ex-demo bike so, I sold it back to him and traded it in for a brand new 2023 model. I contacted Husqvana about the bike and said they should investigate the issues on the bike. But they said as I was now no longer the legal owner the case was now closed. Personally I find that completely unacceptable. So far my new bike has had no issues, first service is now due. Let’s see what happens. Hope you get to the bottom of it, or resolve it somehow. If anything happens again on my new bike, here is a Ducati Desert X in my future. I hope not, because I prefer the Norden. Love it. Ride Safe.

 

[paletrialrider]

Hi Norden Forum Folks, I love my new Norden, but.....

Has anybody had this mildly terrifying issue or something similar. I have owned it for 4 months and have done about 900 miles on it.

I was riding along at artound 50mph down a long wet hill coming into a corner, I changed down and backed off the throttle using the engine breaking. Then suddenly the back wheel stopped and skidded round very quickly, fortunately I was covering the clutch (even with a quickshifter old habits right?), I managed to pull it in quickly and the back wheel came into line again. I couldn,t hear the engine running, I looked down at the dash, it was all active, no warning lights, no big yellow square with an engine management or fault code. Just no revs, the engine had stopped suddenly. I coasted into a small clearing by the road and stopped. I pressed the starter button and it fired up immediately. My riding companion pulled up and asked what had happened as she saw the whole thing. I have no idea.

I took it to the excellent local Norden/KTM dealer, they couldn't find anything. No fault codes, took it for a test ride, no issues. I was very unnerved by the incident, so a few days later I took it out again on very dry roads, going only on mainly straight A roads, coming through a small town towards a roundabout, I changed down and backed off the throttle at around 25mph, it happened again. As it was dry it simply coasted to a stop, rather than causing the backwheel to skid. I tried pulling the clutch in and letting it out as it did to see if it would bump start, it didn't. I hit the starter and it came to life immediately.

I instantly went to the dealer and within 15 minutes they had plugged it in, saw no errors or faults again.

Frankly I am at a loss. Has anybody had anything similar?

Perhaps you were in too high a gear and your RPM's were too low and thus , a stall. I've experienced that through Urban traffic and clutch feathering and she just stallls out . And I RE-start immediately. No rear wheel lock up, as u mention? Good luck and try keeping your RPMS a bit higher, all the time.

 

[Rockymountain]

Hi Norden Forum Folks, I love my new Norden, but.....

Has anybody had this mildly terrifying issue or something similar. I have owned it for 4 months and have done about 900 miles on it.

I was riding along at artound 50mph down a long wet hill coming into a corner, I changed down and backed off the throttle using the engine breaking. Then suddenly the back wheel stopped and skidded round very quickly, fortunately I was covering the clutch (even with a quickshifter old habits right?), I managed to pull it in quickly and the back wheel came into line again. I couldn,t hear the engine running, I looked down at the dash, it was all active, no warning lights, no big yellow square with an engine management or fault code. Just no revs, the engine had stopped suddenly. I coasted into a small clearing by the road and stopped. I pressed the starter button and it fired up immediately. My riding companion pulled up and asked what had happened as she saw the whole thing. I have no idea.

I took it to the excellent local Norden/KTM dealer, they couldn't find anything. No fault codes, took it for a test ride, no issues. I was very unnerved by the incident, so a few days later I took it out again on very dry roads, going only on mainly straight A roads, coming through a small town towards a roundabout, I changed down and backed off the throttle at around 25mph, it happened again. As it was dry it simply coasted to a stop, rather than causing the backwheel to skid. I tried pulling the clutch in and letting it out as it did to see if it would bump start, it didn't. I hit the starter and it came to life immediately.

I instantly went to the dealer and within 15 minutes they had plugged it in, saw no errors or faults again.

Frankly I am at a loss. Has anybody had anything similar?

I have the same problems.

Hi Norden Forum Folks, I love my new Norden, but.....

Has anybody had this mildly terrifying issue or something similar. I have owned it for 4 months and have done about 900 miles on it.

I was riding along at artound 50mph down a long wet hill coming into a corner, I changed down and backed off the throttle using the engine breaking. Then suddenly the back wheel stopped and skidded round very quickly, fortunately I was covering the clutch (even with a quickshifter old habits right?), I managed to pull it in quickly and the back wheel came into line again. I couldn,t hear the engine running, I looked down at the dash, it was all active, no warning lights, no big yellow square with an engine management or fault code. Just no revs, the engine had stopped suddenly. I coasted into a small clearing by the road and stopped. I pressed the starter button and it fired up immediately. My riding companion pulled up and asked what had happened as she saw the whole thing. I have no idea.

I took it to the excellent local Norden/KTM dealer, they couldn't find anything. No fault codes, took it for a test ride, no issues. I was very unnerved by the incident, so a few days later I took it out again on very dry roads, going only on mainly straight A roads, coming through a small town towards a roundabout, I changed down and backed off the throttle at around 25mph, it happened again. As it was dry it simply coasted to a stop, rather than causing the backwheel to skid. I tried pulling the clutch in and letting it out as it did to see if it would bump start, it didn't. I hit the starter and it came to life immediately.

I instantly went to the dealer and within 15 minutes they had plugged it in, saw no errors or faults again.

Frankly I am at a loss. Has anybody had anything similar?