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I presented this issue in a response on the Enduro seat thread, but thought I'd post it separately here...
I have a deposit down on a 2023 model, but currently have a friends 2022 Norden in my garage, and have been taking it for test rides. It's an amazing machine, and feels surprisingly light for what it is. Really love the engine.
In any event, I plan to use this bike as basically a BDR orientated bike, i.e. a multi-day trail camping and off-road riding bike, with tarmac and highway often included to get to the trails, etc.
My issue is with a feeling of slowly, but constantly sliding forward on the seat. I'm 6' 1" (185.5 cm) and 180 lbs (81.5 kg)....anybody else experiencing this? And if so, how did you fix it?
Putting the seat in the high position helps somewhat, but only because you then sort of sit on the shelf that is created at the back of the seat, which isn't as comfortable, and you lose the cradling aspect of the rear seat section, which would be great for comfort on long street hauls.
Yesterday, I came across the Seat Concepts Comfort Seat, which promises:
"The Norden 901 Comfort seat features a pocketed design in the rear of the seating area to help level out the rider platform and reduce the forward slope of the seat." Sounds perfect. Anyone have one?
It also looks like the Husqvarna Enduro seat might help as well, but I don't really want a higher seat, as I would prefer to drop the pegs and maybe add short handlebar risers.
Anyway, that's a lot of words rambling on about sliding forward on the seat, but the issue is profound enough for me that it actually has me considering whether or not I can make the bikes ergonomics work for me...and thus the bike.
Interested in hearing from others on this issue.
Thanks!
ECJ
 

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I notice it a bit, but I ride pretty far forward on dirt bikes also. If it's just cruising down the hwy then I don't notice it at all. I really want a 1 piece enduro seat concepts option that includes the whole seat so I don't have to staple anything together, but it probably won't come out for 2 more years like the rest of the parts on order, lol
 

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I am only 1.69 cm tall but I have the same problem, I tend to slide forward.

The rider's saddle rests on four steel pegs welded to the frame, on each one there is a small plastic cap which is what the saddle really locks onto. I tried to remove both all four - to gain a few mm to rest the leg - but now I have only removed the two rear ones and it slightly improves the situation of the forward movement.
 

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I presented this issue in a response on the Enduro seat thread, but thought I'd post it separately here...
I have a deposit down on a 2023 model, but currently have a friends 2022 Norden in my garage, and have been taking it for test rides. It's an amazing machine, and feels surprisingly light for what it is. Really love the engine.
In any event, I plan to use this bike as basically a BDR orientated bike, i.e. a multi-day trail camping and off-road riding bike, with tarmac and highway often included to get to the trails, etc.
My issue is with a feeling of slowly, but constantly sliding forward on the seat. I'm 6' 1" (185.5 cm) and 180 lbs (81.5 kg)....anybody else experiencing this? And if so, how did you fix it?
Putting the seat in the high position helps somewhat, but only because you then sort of sit on the shelf that is created at the back of the seat, which isn't as comfortable, and you lose the cradling aspect of the rear seat section, which would be great for comfort on long street hauls.
Yesterday, I came across the Seat Concepts Comfort Seat, which promises:
"The Norden 901 Comfort seat features a pocketed design in the rear of the seating area to help level out the rider platform and reduce the forward slope of the seat." Sounds perfect. Anyone have one?
It also looks like the Husqvarna Enduro seat might help as well, but I don't really want a higher seat, as I would prefer to drop the pegs and maybe add short handlebar risers.
Anyway, that's a lot of words rambling on about sliding forward on the seat, but the issue is profound enough for me that it actually has me considering whether or not I can make the bikes ergonomics work for me...and thus the bike.
Interested in hearing from others on this issue.
Thanks!
ECJ
I have numerous Seat Concepts seat and LOVE them all. I'm 6'2" and need the seat in the high position but I really don't like the gap at the back of the seat. I talked to the owner of Seats Concepts last week and they are developing a "high position only" seat that will be more comfortable and eliminate that gap in the back!!! I'm betting that will fix that issue. Going to get one the minute they are released.
 

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I find this no matter on my Norden or KTM, no big deal for me…just get out and ride dude and enjoy it.
Maybe the enduro seat will level out the front and rear seats, but you will still find yourself moving around, that’s part or riding, you have to adjust your position depending on what type of road or conditions. Look at GP riders, they are up and down, left and right, hanging from the bike all the time. If you are off road, you move your backside around to the left and right, front and back, even on roads you have to do that. Maybe it’s your pants are too slippery 🙃 ? It’s a great bike, what do you currently ride?
 

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I find this no matter on my Norden or KTM, no big deal for me…just get out and ride dude and enjoy it.
Maybe the enduro seat will level out the front and rear seats, but you will still find yourself moving around, that’s part or riding, you have to adjust your position depending on what type of road or conditions. Look at GP riders, they are up and down, left and right, hanging from the bike all the time. If you are off road, you move your backside around to the left and right, front and back, even on roads you have to do that. Maybe it’s your pants are too slippery 🙃 ? It’s a great bike, what do you currently ride?
It's not off road that's the issue, it's on the pavement (when you're seated in one position for long stretches) that I find it annoying. If it can be easily fixed with an aftermarket seat, why not? Or maybe I should just glue a sheet of sandpaper to my riding pants, and get on with it 🙂.....
 

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It's not off road that's the issue, it's on the pavement (when you're seated in one position for long stretches) that I find it annoying. If it can be easily fixed with an aftermarket seat, why not? Or maybe I should just glue a sheet of sandpaper to my riding pants, and get on with it 🙂.....
😜 go for it! Aftermarket seats are a good option if you don’t get any joy…for sure
 

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It's not off road that's the issue, it's on the pavement (when you're seated in one position for long stretches) that I find it annoying. If it can be easily fixed with an aftermarket seat, why not? Or maybe I should just glue a sheet of sandpaper to my riding pants, and get on with it 🙂.....
I’ve just been on a multi-day (500km per day) ride with long boring stretches of road. I too am tall at 6’4, I have to sit at the back and in the high position, lowered pegs help, but I find sitting for hours on end, your arse gets tired in the one spot. It could be leg position too the pushed you forward, I too tend to move forward, but then I just move back again, only noticeable when I’m getting tired and too long without breaks
 

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😜 go for it! Aftermarket seats are a good option if you don’t get any joy…for sure
Yeah, I think some of it is leg position, and would probably be doing lowered pegs on this bike and maybe short bar risers.
My current off-road machine is a lowly KLR650 with a stock seat, that I find surprisingly comfortable. I can do long dual sport days on that bike and have basically no issues ergonomics wise, but the engine and suspension, now that's another story......
My main daily rider (which I also do long multi day tours with) is a modern Triumph T120 with an aftermarket seat. Love that bike. Amazing engine.
I've also got some older BMW Airheads, and a Yamaha XT550, and none of these bother me in the comfort department.
I think the sliding forward issue with the Norden took me by surprise since everyone else seems to only be raving about the comfort of the stock seat!
ECJ

PS I used to live in your city way back in the day........
 

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Yeah, I think some of it is leg position, and would probably be doing lowered pegs on this bike and maybe short bar risers.
My current off-road machine is a lowly KLR650 with a stock seat, that I find surprisingly comfortable. I can do long dual sport days on that bike and have basically no issues ergonomics wise, but the engine and suspension, now that's another story......
My main daily rider (which I also do long multi day tours with) is a modern Triumph T120 with an aftermarket seat. Love that bike. Amazing engine.
I've also got some older BMW Airheads, and a Yamaha XT550, and none of these bother me in the comfort department.
I think the sliding forward issue with the Norden took me by surprise since everyone else seems to only be raving about the comfort of the stock seat!
ECJ

PS I used to live in your city way back in the day........
I'd like to own your garage!! 😂
 

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Perhaps your posture on the bike is off? Try tilting your pelvis forward and straightening your back. I've done long days on the Norden and love the options of different positions for these long stretches or rides. When I slide back, I tilt my pelvis forward and straighten my back which prevents any sliding, even with riding pants or in the rain. It gives my back and a butt a break and feels great, like a long stretch. Might want to give a try. I think the seat is excellent BTW. Not as good as my Corbin on my BMW, but then again, I wouldn't want to ride that saddle offroad either....
 

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Perhaps your posture on the bike is off? Try tilting your pelvis forward and straightening your back. I've done long days on the Norden and love the options of different positions for these long stretches or rides. When I slide back, I tilt my pelvis forward and straighten my back which prevents any sliding, even with riding pants or in the rain. It gives my back and a butt a break and feels great, like a long stretch. Might want to give a try. I think the seat is excellent BTW. Not as good as my Corbin on my BMW, but then again, I wouldn't want to ride that saddle offroad either....
Worth a try.....
I think part of it may be down to the fact that it's not my bike, and I have things I would change, i.e. lower pegs, short bar risers, different bar position on triple, rolling bars slightly forward, etc.
I'm sure it's solvable, was just curious if others were experiencing it, or had already solved it.
At the moment, the Seat Concepts Comfort Seat is looking like the winner for me (in addition to the above adjustments).
Now I just gotta wait until 2023........................:cautious:
ECJJCE
 
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