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Hi everyone! I’m really in trouble between crashbars and axp skidplate.

On my previous KTM V2, I always use the oem crashbars: they looks great and works better, saving bike for low and high speed crash.

I bougth the Norden to have a lighter bike and, if possibly, I’ll like to avoid crashbar: axp skidplate shoud be a real alternative?

We all know that bars can cause damage if they get caught in protruding obstacles, but - as far as I understand - the axp plate has three fixing points on four which are the same as the crashbars (which actually have three on each side, and therefore can better dissipate the impact) and the resistance is entrusted to only two aluminum brackets with a single fixing point. It seems an elastic system rather than rigid, and it can have its value, but I think that my problem is falling from a standstill or at low speed, if I fall at high speed I think more about myself than about the bike ...

I can‘t decide. What do you think? how does axp works in the event of a fall ofa 230 kg motorbike with full fuel, not on a 100 kg motocross bike? Some has experience with a big bike?
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Hi everyone! I’m really in trouble between crashbars and axp skidplate.

On my previous KTM V2, I always use the oem crashbars: they looks great and works better, saving bike for low and high speed crash.

I bougth the Norden to have a lighter bike and, if possibly, I’ll like to avoid crashbar: axp skidplate shoud be a real alternative?

We all know that bars can cause damage if they get caught in protruding obstacles, but - as far as I understand - the axp plate has three fixing points on four which are the same as the crashbars (which actually have three on each side, and therefore can better dissipate the impact) and the resistance is entrusted to only two aluminum brackets with a single fixing point. It seems an elastic system rather than rigid, and it can have its value, but I think that my problem is falling from a standstill or at low speed, if I fall at high speed I think more about myself than about the bike ...

I can‘t decide. What do you think? how does axp works in the event of a fall ofa 230 kg motorbike with full fuel, not on a 100 kg motocross bike? Some has experience with a big bike?
I’m curious as well. I have a Tusk skid plate on mine and have some Givi crash bars I am considering putting on.
Mám známeho v Banskej Bystrici SK :), ten používa AXP na moto KTM 890 adv. R. Jazdil s tým aj Rally Chorvátsko. Videl som moto po jazde, bola dosť popadaná, ale doska AXP spravila svoju prácu.
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Went out this weekend for the first ride. I ride almost exclusively in the dirt so went to some spots with rocky uphills to see if I needed to drop a tooth on the front sprocket. The answer to that is yes and have a 15T on order. As I was getting more comfortable on the bike I took a line to go up several ledges (as slow as I could go since I was testing 1st gear sprocket needs) and it was in a shaded area so the ground was still muddy. Well the rear tire immediately loaded up and I lost all traction and went for the front brake to hold it. Since it was muddy the front brake did not hold the bike and I began to slide back down the hill. I then decided to lay it on its side to stop the slide. So here it what happened...not a scratch on the shroud! The thin aluminum on the side of the tanks did dent. The plastic bark busters held up well. Due to this I have on order a skid plate that comes up the side of the tank to replace the flimsy ones and also replace the bottom one. Went with the one from Rottweiler. Also bought better tires Motoz Rallz that I'm going to mount up this weekend.

I was considering getting crash guards, but now I'm not...at least for now since the three points that contacted the ground were the handlebars, the bottom of the tank, and the heat shield on the exhaust.
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Vyšiel tento víkend na prvú jazdu. Jazdím takmer výlučne v hline, takže som išiel na niektoré miesta so skalnatými kopcami, aby som zistil, či nepotrebujem vypadnúť zub na predné ozubené koleso. Odpoveď je áno a mať 15T na objednávku. Keď som sa na bicykli cítil pohodlnejšie, vybral som si líniu, aby som vyšiel na niekoľko výstupkov (tak pomaly, ako som mohol, keďže som testoval potreby ozubeného kolesa 1. prevodového stupňa) a bolo to v zatienenej oblasti, takže zem bola stále blato. No zadná pneumatika sa okamžite nabila a ja som stratil všetku trakciu a šiel som po prednú brzdu, aby som ju udržal. Keďže bolo zablatené, predná brzda motorku neudržala a ja som sa začal šmýkať späť dolu kopcom. Potom som sa rozhodol položiť ho na bok, aby som zastavil šmykľavku. Takže tu je to, čo sa stalo...ani škrabanec na plášti! Tenký hliník na boku nádrží sa predieral. Plastové lapače kôry držali dobre. Z tohto dôvodu mám na objednávku klznú dosku, ktorá prichádza po boku nádrže, aby nahradila tie chatrné a tiež nahradila spodnú. Išiel som s tým od Rotvajlera. Tiež som si kúpil lepšie pneumatiky Motoz Rallz, ktoré sa chystám namontovať tento víkend.

Zvažoval som, že si zaobstarám chrániče proti nárazu, ale teraz nie...aspoň zatiaľ, keďže tri body, ktoré sa dotýkali zeme, boli riadidlá, spodok nádrže a tepelný štít na výfuku.
Daj prosim foto po páde. Ďakujem.
I've ordered the AXP Touring skid plate from Rottweiler. I have AXP skid plates on 2 other Huskies that I own and they've been great so I'm willing to give it a try. Eric at RIDE Adventures gave the KTM version an excellent endorsement:

Went out this weekend for the first ride. I ride almost exclusively in the dirt so went to some spots with rocky uphills to see if I needed to drop a tooth on the front sprocket. The answer to that is yes and have a 15T on order. As I was getting more comfortable on the bike I took a line to go up several ledges (as slow as I could go since I was testing 1st gear sprocket needs) and it was in a shaded area so the ground was still muddy. Well the rear tire immediately loaded up and I lost all traction and went for the front brake to hold it. Since it was muddy the front brake did not hold the bike and I began to slide back down the hill. I then decided to lay it on its side to stop the slide. So here it what happened...not a scratch on the shroud! The thin aluminum on the side of the tanks did dent. The plastic bark busters held up well. Due to this I have on order a skid plate that comes up the side of the tank to replace the flimsy ones and also replace the bottom one. Went with the one from Rottweiler. Also bought better tires Motoz Rallz that I'm going to mount up this weekend.

I was considering getting crash guards, but now I'm not...at least for now since the three points that contacted the ground were the handlebars, the bottom of the tank, and the heat shield on the exhaust.
Daj sem foto po spadnuti ( šmýkačke ) .
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Mounted up the AXP skid plate yesterday and it went on perfectly. Also put on some new hand guards.
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Včera som montoval Hepco Becker. Nie je moc dobre naprojektovanie spodného úchytu som prerobil. Uchytenie na úchyt stupaciek.
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Considering crash bars so I can put highways pegs for long slogs on the slab and in rocky terrian. I just really don't want to put so much heavy stuff on this light amazing bike. Does anyone know of a company making a hard plastic skid plate for the Norden?
belgiumcx, radšej nárazové tyče, aj keď trochu ťažšie, ako po páde platiť ten veľký plast okolo nádrže. V EU ten plast stojí 380€.

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Hi everyone! I’m really in trouble between crashbars and axp skidplate.

On my previous KTM V2, I always use the oem crashbars: they looks great and works better, saving bike for low and high speed crash.

I bougth the Norden to have a lighter bike and, if possibly, I’ll like to avoid crashbar: axp skidplate shoud be a real alternative?

We all know that bars can cause damage if they get caught in protruding obstacles, but - as far as I understand - the axp plate has three fixing points on four which are the same as the crashbars (which actually have three on each side, and therefore can better dissipate the impact) and the resistance is entrusted to only two aluminum brackets with a single fixing point. It seems an elastic system rather than rigid, and it can have its value, but I think that my problem is falling from a standstill or at low speed, if I fall at high speed I think more about myself than about the bike ...

I can‘t decide. What do you think? how does axp works in the event of a fall ofa 230 kg motorbike with full fuel, not on a 100 kg motocross bike? Some has experience with a big bike?
I’ll let you know shortly. I’ve an AXP poly plate on. A crash and subsequent scratches convinced me greater damage could have happened. Took a chance and ordered the H&B crash bars. They’re back ordered. I’ll post the experience. Also ordered handlebar pro. Handlebars took a significant blow and the stick hand guards ‘ran for the hills’. If the AXP and crash bars aren’t compatible, the AXP will be up for sale. The side of that bike is fragile.
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Ja asi radšej pôjdem do hliníkového krytu od husqvarny. Počkám kým bude na predajni.
Ja asi radšej pôjdem do hliníkového krytu od husqvarny. Počkám kým bude na predajni.
Ok, help me with the translation. I speak Russian, but not Slovak. I think you’re telling me that the H&P bars won’t fit.
Nie nie, to si nemyslím, AXP kryt podla mňa sa tam zmesti. Mam trubkový chránič Hepco Becker a držal som AXP v piatok v ruke, np nekúpil som, ale pasovať to bude. Prelož so v Google😉.
Ach! Zabudol som na Google Translate. Vďaka! A to je dobrá správa, že sa to zrejme zíde. Myslel som si. Naozaj sa mi páči môj AXP a nechcel som si medzi nimi vyberať.
I actually really like those! Plus one could mount those cool crash bar bags from Lonerider!
I’ll let you know shortly. I’ve an AXP poly plate on. A crash and subsequent scratches convinced me greater damage could have happened. Took a chance and ordered the H&B crash bars. They’re back ordered. I’ll post the experience. Also ordered handlebar pro. Handlebars took a significant blow and the stick hand guards ‘ran for the hills’. If the AXP and crash bars aren’t compatible, the AXP will be up for sale. The side of that bike is fragile.
Please update when you install the H&B guards. I’m looking for a compatible combo of crash bars and skid plate as well. AXP says they don’t guarantee comparability with any other manufacturer. After watching install videos it seems that the thickness of the AXP plastic may misalign the H&B guard.
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